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Mr Floydy
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:04:00 -
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Can someone bring up some actual numbers on how the Gila's drones will work out here. I've only got an old EFT build to hand and haven't got time to dig through the drone rebalance thread.
Looking at the old version of EFT on my work laptop, a Ogre 2 in a level 5 skilled Gila would have around 500 shield, 2665 hull and 1080 armour.
A unbonused Hammerhead 2 would have 167 shield, 360 armour and 887 hull.
500% bonus to that would make a single hammerhead significantly more tanky than the current Ogres? Or am I missing something here?
With the 500% bonus they're going to have 100 shield, 2160 armour and 5322 hull?
That's a huge amount of tank on a drone with better tracking, speed etc...
Phantasm change looks pretty cool :) More comments later... |
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:24:00 -
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Harvey James wrote: sig is too high and its orbit velocity is hardly convincing
Hang on, you say sig size there. Checking EFT, Do medium drones really have the same sig size as large drones? Or is my EFT broken :s
That's mad.
Not able to really comment on the orbit velocities. I've always found them pretty tough to nail quick enough when orbiting you firing as they are currently, let alone with a boost. Don't they struggle to track at the speed they orbit at normally? I'm rusty with drones! :p |
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Posted - 2014.04.07 23:10:00 -
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Would like to see the Cynabal get some optimal range bonuses over tracking or falloff. Gear it towards Arty :)
Is it Guristas that are utter gits with ECM in missions? Imagine some sort of ECM drone bonus would be quite fitting if so. Although I think ECM drones need a complete rebalance as they are at the moment. |
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Posted - 2014.04.08 09:25:00 -
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[quote=Catherine Laartii]-The Vigilant, and all the other Serpentis ships for that matter, should get the AB bonus you're currently proposing with Sansha and have it swapped out with the falloff bonus, since they generally fight at spitting distance anyway./quote]
90% webs, very high damage for the class and an AB bonus? That's a terrible terrible idea.
Whilst I'm not going to suggest the current Vigilant powergrid changes are great, that combo would be massively ********. |
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Posted - 2014.04.08 17:18:00 -
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Silivar Karkun wrote:so, the Gila now has the same idiotic bonus as the worm, and its bandwidth is nerfed so in case of getting attacked by frigates it has only the backup of 4 unbonused light drones.....pfffff....
So what? The Gila get's to join load of other ships in the game that are vulnerable to frigates. In exchange it's going to be pretty brutal against other cruisers.
Is it just me that seems to think all the Gila pilots here seem to want something that can do everything solo? Eg massively tanky, does huge missile dps, can use sentries to hit hard at 50+km whilst also being able to tear apart frigates? You can't have everything guys. Many ships in this game have some weaknesses vs certain other classes yet that doesn't stop them being great fun and highly affective in other situations.
New Gila is going to be great fun. If you want the drone options the old Gila had - fly an Ishtar. |
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Posted - 2014.04.08 17:31:00 -
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Just need the GIla to get a nice shiny new model and I'll definitely be keeping one in my hangar with the stats as they are currently!
Something else nice, as their dps will be coming from 20m3 of drones instead of 125m3, you'll be able to bring a lot more spares in cargo. Make sure one of you has one of those mobile fitting deployable things - bob's your uncle loads of spare drones.
Warp speed on Cynabal sounds interesting. Having that ability to hit and run in small groups sounds nice. |
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Posted - 2014.04.08 20:10:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:]With 5 drone ships doing anything to a single drone is a loss of 20% of my drone DPS and on a hull with weapons fitted probably around 15% overall DPS loss. Reducing the drones to 2 increases that number to 50% of my drone DPS being affected and probably 30-40% of my overall DPS. I'm not opposed to the implementation, I'm just pointing out that it creates it's own weaknesses. That and it exasperates the failings of drone AI.
On the other hand, the new drones are far more resilient against smartbombs. Yes losing 1 will be a bigger dps different. However you are much less likely to lose one as they are much tougher.
It'll balance out in most scenarios.
Gila pilots, if you are worried about losing your drones due to them taking ages to get back to you. Try sitting up close to your target and brawling ;) - you're not going to lose drones this way unless you're in idiot or in a fight you were never going to win anyway. |
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Posted - 2014.04.08 20:21:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:This is kinda the crux of my whole point. The gila was once a 2nd best at a few tricks, now it's just really good at one.
Edit: And I'm not saying that this is bad or a failed design, just don't expect everyone to share the enthusiasm about the more limited ideal usage cases here.
Really good at one rather than 2nd best at a few things? That's an improvement then. There are now situations where this ship is the best, rather than every situation basically being "should have used an ishtar or Rattlesnake"
Really think this needs to hit Sisi nice and soon so everyone can go try them. |
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Posted - 2014.04.08 22:06:00 -
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Carmello Oskald wrote:now its dropping down to 460 will all level Vs.
Doing it wrong. I'm afraid you are just bad at fitting.
Why are you looking to fly it with only a single damage mod and no missiles? |
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